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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 7, 2010 11:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

Fantasy baseball is a game where you and a bunch of your dorky friends create imaginary baseball teams that compete in a league (ours was 12 teams for about 22 weeks plus 4 weeks of playoffs) using the statistics generated by real players in real games. You have a draft in the beginning of the year to establish the teams and then players traded between teams or you can pick up players that are not on a team (free agents) and waive current players to make a spot on the roster for the new one. Thus you can adjust your roster throughout the year to try to assure you have the best available players from week to week. This requires access to all the statistical information so you know when to make a move. Of course being able to recite baseball stats is perhaps the single easiest way to turn off the fairer 51% of the world's population, thus people who are exciting by such things don't usually do too well with the ladies and could be categorized as dorks. Make sense?

This forum has hosted a league for the last several years and High Flow has joined Direwolf, waynecs and yours truly as winners. Dorks de la dorks.

btw WT does not play fantasy baseball and is well established as the forum ladies man. Coincidence? I think not.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 7, 2010 11:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

Ahhhh... baseball. Very little about baseball makes any sense to me, and I have tried. They show it on ESPN here and I have attempted without much success to get involved in the gameplay - I just don't get it. If you're willing to divulge baseball's arcane secrets over however many pints it takes then we have a date for next March, my learned friend.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 7, 2010 12:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

I can try although it took many hours and pints for a few of your countrymen to explain cricket to me and I am still not sure i get it. This what i learned.

1. guys in white uniforms play with balls and bats.
2. you drink a lot and eat silly little cucumber sandwiches
3. you drink more
4. no one actually wins the match but they declare things
5. you drink more
6. you then go out for a curry.

I don't think baseball translates well to television (i actually prefer it on the radio) so it would be hard to learn it that way. Even though it is not as physically aerobic as your football, i do think it is a mentally aerobic sport as everything you do depends on the situation at that given moment and there so many variables that dictate the moment. I like that my kids play baseball for that reason, although i like that they also play more physical sports like soccer and basketball so they actually get to run a bit.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Oct 7, 2010 6:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

Few of either gender in Philly last night were uninterested!!

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 7, 2010 7:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

Oh but that was real baseball and a fantastic performance. If you want to get a feel for what i was talking about, check out Mandojammer's post down below. Find me the woman who wants to hook up with that!!

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Oct 7, 2010 7:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

I take your point :)

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Oct 8, 2010 9:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

Hey now you two. I've been married for 26 years and with Mrs. Mando for 27.

I don't have to look good naked anymore.

Not sure what that has to do with being a dork, I'm just sayin'.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Oct 8, 2010 10:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

Yes, but is this something Mrs. Mando *personally* relates to - or fondly tolerates, i.e., the attitude one must absolutely cultivate about any number of the spouse's eccentricities in order to stay married for 27? :) I'm married to a similar guy (not really so much about baseball, though).

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Oct 8, 2010 4:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

Well she did get to the point where she would ask a couple of times during the week how my team was doing. When I would complain about a bad week all I would get was a "Well, it's only a game and not the end of the world" kinda of thing.

Or did you mean the part about not having to look good naked anymore?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 7, 2010 12:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

So, are we on for 3,5 and possibly 6?

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 7, 2010 12:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

my meeting in on the 25th, i usually get i the day before and stay the next day. I might extend the trip a little to go visit some colleagues in other towns and give a few lectures although that has not been completely worked out yet so i may get into London earlier.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 7, 2010 2:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

Damn...wish I were coming along; curry in London: mmmm! Pubs in London: ah! "Nag's Head", great place near the Nat Hist Museum. Say "hello" to Kevin if you drop by, but don't order anything but "real" (ie, strong, dark, pref from Ireland) beer (or he'll term it "piss water"; Stella Artois for example...though I know some like it, bleech!). It's an out of the way place, but his wife used to make all the food, and it was damn good. While in school across the pond, my nephew and son would meet there every Christmas for a few yrs to celebrate and we caught up with them a couple times...Kevin hates all the new fancy pants, trendy sorts of pubs that have replaced the old ma & pa sorts, and rails on about it to one and all that enter. Doesn't like the "no smoking" biz either, which to be honest, in both Eng/Ire, it more or less goes with the territory it always seemed to me (as unhealthy as it is to admit; but WTF? We're there to pickle our liver anyhow, right?).

This post was modified by William Tell on 2010-10-07 21:03:45

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Poster: duckpond74 Date: Oct 7, 2010 2:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

I'm a huge baseball fan - played it for over 35 years. The times I lived in England and Wales, I have tried, time and time again to try to make sense of the bloody ball and bat game you call cricket - all to no avail. It must me a transatlantic mental block that shows up on both sides of the big swamp. They tell me rounders is closer to baseball, but I've never seen it played to compare.

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Poster: roughyed Date: Oct 8, 2010 12:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

The games are very similar in skills and strategy - both great games to play. Baseball was created in Britain and the first cricket international was between USA and Canada. The main difference is that when you start a cricket match it rains.

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Poster: craven714 Date: Oct 7, 2010 12:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

"Baseball? I would rather watch flies fuck" ~
George Carlin

I do like Carlins idea of randomly placed landmines in the
outfield: "Ryan Church heading towards a pop fly in right field....He settles under it......(MMPFOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!)...
oh dear."

Tongue firmly in cheek Larry :)
congrats high flow

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 7, 2010 12:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

Carlin used to do this great skit about comparing baseball to football.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om_yq4L3M_I&;p=865886C93E70CF84&playnext=1&index=34

what a genius.

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Poster: craven714 Date: Oct 7, 2010 12:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

absolutely elbow...dont even need to watch the you tube...
(although he did change the bit slightly over the years)
As a kid, I would put the jam-box in front of the TV and
record his HBO shows on cassette. And then I would play them back every night as I was drifting off to sleep (talk about pathetic!).
Funny, I thought you might bring the BB vs FB segment up.
Grateful minds think alike.

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Poster: TOOTMO Date: Oct 10, 2010 2:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

"show it on ESPN here and I have attempted without much success to get involved in the gameplay - I just don't get it."

You must be ADD, Rob. According to the article below, there are only about 14 minutes of "action" per broadcast.

The funny thing is when they looked at a game from 1952, they found that the amount of action was about the same but in 1952 they only had about 9 minutes of commercials compared to over 40 minutes nowadays. Didn't know if a link would work so I pasted the article below though the nifty graphic did not show up.

TOOTMO



Anatomy of a Baseball Broadcast WSJ 2010-10-06

As Major League Baseball's postseason begins Wednesday, the sport's fans are prepping for what they'd call the most drama-packed month of the year—a time when families huddle around the television to see upsets pulled, heroes born and a World Series won.

But let's face it, they're also liable to spend lots of time watching guys standing around during pitching changes, dawdling on the mound or stepping out of the batter's box to perform some idiosyncratic ritual that involves tapping one's bat on one's shinguards.

Breaking Down the Game
Here's a look at what viewers can expect to see in a televised baseball game. Click to expand graphic.

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It all got us thinking: Exactly how much genuine baseball action is there in an average baseball game?

Following the model of a similar study we did about football last season, we reviewed a pair of nationally televised nine-inning baseball games from earlier this season, one shown on Fox and the other on ESPN, and used a stopwatch to break them down into their component parts.

The stopwatch would start when a pitcher lifted his leg to begin his pitching motion. The timing would stop when the ball hit the catcher's mitt or, if it was put in play, when the presiding umpire made a call or the players all stopped moving (pickoff attempts and steals were also counted as action).

The result is that during these games, there was a nearly identical amount of action: about 14 minutes. To put that in context, that's about 10.9% of the total broadcast time (excluding commercials). It's a fraction of the roughly 88 minutes the players were shown standing around between plays, nearly 45% more than the 10 minutes of replays that are shown and almost four times as much as the cameras show players lounging in the dugout.

The total 14 minutes of action was about three minutes more action than one might see in a football game, according to our previous study.

Sports producers, announcers, commentators and players generally agreed with our assessment, though there were a few bones to pick. Bob Costas, who has announced games for every major American sports league, thought there could have been "a couple of subsets. Let's be honest—there's action, and then there's meaningful action."


Columnist George Will doesn't think it's possible to figure out a definition of "action" that would jibe with every viewer. "This will drive baseball people crazy because they want to quantify everything, but there are just some things that aren't quantifiable."

So how do the modern games compare with Game 6 of the 1952 World Series between the Brooklyn Dodgers and New York Yankees—the oldest complete-game broadcast that MLB has in its possession? While the amount of action was roughly similar—about 13 minutes—we tallied only nine minutes and 44 seconds of commercials. The tally for today's games, 42 minutes and 10 seconds, was more than four times as high.

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The Journal study from early this year on NFL games showed several other differences from baseball. While football had 67 minutes of standing-around time—about 21 minutes less than baseball—baseball broadcasts showed managers about one-half the amount of time that football broadcasts showed head coaches, one-sixth the amount of shots showing officials and only half the time that football telecasts devoted to replays.

When it comes to broadcasts in general, "You always have to leave time on the back end of the replays to get to the game," says Ed Goren, vice chairman of Fox Sports Media Group, which shows both MLB and NFL games. "But you don't have much time in baseball, and you can never miss the next pitch."

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 10, 2010 2:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

Obviously sports are like life, TOOTMO. Brief flashes of interest inbetween long stretches of nothing going on. And no guarantee whatsoever that the interesting flashes will be to your advantage.

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Poster: TOOTMO Date: Oct 10, 2010 9:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The new king of Fantasy Dork Ball is.... (pathetically forum-related)

"Obviously sports are like life, TOOTMO. Brief flashes of interest inbetween long stretches of nothing going on."

Take out "life" and substitue "a 93 show"---still makes sense, dontyaknow.

TOOTMO